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Discussion => Drug safety => Topic started by: sabialabia on August 09, 2011, 12:56 am
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Can anyone with experience washing joke recommend a good source for the acetone needed for this process?
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a good source is ace hardware.
you can make it anhydrous by adding dried Epsom salts.
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looked into that but seems like quite a hassle (for someone like me...)
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Can anyone with experience washing joke recommend a good source for the acetone needed for this process?
joke...do you mean coke?
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looked into that but seems like quite a hassle (for someone like me...)
someone like you? what does that mean?
do you live outside of the united states?
honestly a 6 year old could make anhydrous acetone. and its a lot cheaper then buying it.
you pour a bunch of epsom salts on a plate and microwave it for a long time (until sizzling stops) then you have a bunch of dried up epson salts.
you then break it all up and put it into your quart of acetone, shake it up and leave it for 24 hours.
then you have anhydrous acetone, no need to filter or remove salts, they will stay at the bottom of the can.
if youre not able to do that, i dont think you should try to clean up coke.
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Would anyone care to explain the process of cleaning mdma? I think i get the part about making anhydrous acetone, but the actual cleaning of the mdma is a little unclear. What materials does one need and what is the procedure?
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its the same method as cleaning coke.
just mix your mdma with some acetone and stir it up a few times this will dissolve everything but the mdma, so then you will have pure mdma. its what i did with 3janes stuff and it turned out amazing.
if you have time on your hands you can even re-x it using water :)
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Would anyone care to explain the process of cleaning mdma? I think i get the part about making anhydrous acetone, but the actual cleaning of the mdma is a little unclear. What materials does one need and what is the procedure?
You make sure it's all powder, add it to a jar of anhydrous acetone while stirring... All of the cuts will dissolve into the acetone. MDMA / Amphetamine / Pseudoephedrine / Levamisole / Cocaine all will NOT dissolve, and will instead sit at the bottom of the jar.
You then pour all of this this through a medium flow filter, rinse the jar with more acetone, pour through filter again, then dry the crystals in the filter between paper and evaporate the acetone off of the powder. The acetone that passed through the filter is full of crap and can be disposed of.
What you're left with on the filter is the goods.
http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=29652
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its the same method as cleaning coke.
just mix your mdma with some acetone and stir it up a few times this will dissolve everything but the mdma, so then you will have pure mdma. its what i did with 3janes stuff and it turned out amazing.
if you have time on your hands you can even re-x it using water :)
I'd really like to hear a quick overview of Re-x'ing with water.
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Thanks HanstHoppeble and Calistoner. Quick question though... Does it matter how much acetone you use or how long you stir for? Also, where can you get the right filter for the job?
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well its simple but just takes time and patience, i ended up wasting one gram my first re-x.
one you clean your mdma, just dissolve it in a small amount of some purified or distilled water. let it slowly evap over a week or two depending on how much water you use, and then youll have a milky white layer of rock hard crystals.
i advise against this if you dont have much molly, the powder from the cleanup is potent as fuck
but if you decide you wanna do it i have 2 warnings for you.
MDMA does not like glass, it will stick to it and when you scrape it, can shoot off in every direction, makes you very frustrated when you're trying to conserve it.
also, when it is evaporating, when its close to being done, it turns into a clear syrup, that freaked me out and i thought somehow the MDMA had evaporated with the water, so i scraped up the syrup and made a wasteful mess, just let it dry all the way until it is rock hard.
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well its simple but just takes time and patience, i ended up wasting one gram my first re-x.
one you clean your mdma, just dissolve it in a small amount of some purified or distilled water. let it slowly evap over a week or two depending on how much water you use, and then youll have a milky white layer of rock hard crystals.
i advise against this if you dont have much molly, the powder from the cleanup is potent as fuck
but if you decide you wanna do it i have 2 warnings for you.
MDMA does not like glass, it will stick to it and when you scrape it, can shoot off in every direction, makes you very frustrated when you're trying to conserve it.
also, when it is evaporating, when its close to being done, it turns into a clear syrup, that freaked me out and i thought somehow the MDMA had evaporated with the water, so i scraped up the syrup and made a wasteful mess, just let it dry all the way until it is rock hard.
Interesting... so there's no filtration or separation step? Where do the contaminants go?
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the contaminates go into the acetone when you clean it.
when you have pure mdma, you can dissolve it in water then let it dry and get bigger chunks of crystals. there really no point to this except getting pretty crystals, if you just want to eat it, eat it.
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the contaminates go into the acetone when you clean it.
when you have pure mdma, you can dissolve it in water then let it dry and get bigger chunks of crystals. there really no point to this except getting pretty crystals, if you just want to eat it, eat it.
Ahhh.... gotcha. For some reason I was under the impression that washed mdma still wasn't entirely clean and required a re-x for a few extra percentage points.
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Acetone doesn't clean coke of all its impurities. It really only useful for cleaning the stepped on street shit.
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thanks for the good info Cali and Hanst. quick questions from a newbie:
1. is this the same acetone that someone would use to cleanup oil-based paint brushes?
2. what is considered a medium flow filter? would a coffee filter due or something better?
3. what color should a properly wash product look like?
4. what is a good dose for pure and cleaned product?
thanks in advance
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awesome post floorboards. great questions. ;D
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thanks for the good info Cali and Hanst. quick questions from a newbie:
1. is this the same acetone that someone would use to cleanup oil-based paint brushes?
2. what is considered a medium flow filter? would a coffee filter due or something better?
3. what color should a properly wash product look like?
4. what is a good dose for pure and cleaned product?
thanks in advance
Note: I'm not an expert. I just spend a lot of time on various forums and am parroting that information.
1. You want better quality acetone, otherwise it's going to have a lot of alcohol and water that the magnesium sulfate (epsom salts) needs to soak up. Look for ACS Grade (99.5%). Also, don't expose it to air! It will suck up moisture from the air; only open it when you need to. I personally use Anhydrous Magnesium Sulfate powder that I found at a lab supply company to dry out my ACS Grade Acetone, and this lets me skip the whole microwaving/oven epsom salt thing. Water in your Acetone will dissolve your mdma/etc and send it all the way through the filter (not what we want), even a little bit can kill whole percents of your product left on the filter.
2. I've heard that many people use coffee filters. I'm sure it works, but generally it's recommended to find regular laboratory "medium flow filter paper." I use "Grade 1 Medium Flow Qualitative Filters," I don't really know what the grades indicate --Grade 1 is a low grade and this may not be best. They're pretty cheap, but I presume they're better than coffee filters.
3. I believe it should be white. The rest of the crap should get dissolved, but don't hold me to this ---I'm really not sure. Someone else here can probably give you a better idea. I've only done this with reasonably good quality pure mdma, so it's already tan/white before I start.
4. This depends on what "good" is for you. I believe a dose is usually considered to be in the 1-2mg/kg range. I like it on the higher end, but 1.5mg/kg is very very nice. Be sure to take the majority of it right off the bat, as re-dosing doesn't work very well. Like 3Jane quoted:
Redosing:
Taking more MDMA too long after your initial dose will enhance the speedy effect of the experience, but won't do much to improve the happy/magic aspect of your roll. Taking one large upfront dose is preferable to redosing throughout the night.
"MDMA acts as a releasing agent of serotonin, norepinephrine, and dopamine. It enters neurons via carriage by the monoamine transporters. Once inside, MDMA inhibits the vesicular monoamine transporter, which results in increased concentrations of serotonin, norepinephrine, and dopamine into the cytoplasm, and induces their release by reversing their respective transporters through a process known as phosphorylation."
"MDMA will at first releases huge amounts of serotonin, then it will inhibit vesicular monoamine transporters. this makes the serotonin cycle back n forth in the neuron, but more serotonin isn't going to be able enter into the cycle at this point. Taking more MDMA after a certain point (usually 45-60 minutes user experience shows) won't do anything for the serotonin feeling, but you may get a rush of dopamine because dopamine is able to rebuild its supply much faster (and its not as inhibited as serotonin)."
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HanstHoppeble can you share where you can get the ACS grade acetone?
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HanstHoppeble can you share where you can get the ACS grade acetone?
Check the Googles.
I've seen it on a few of the standard internet marketplaces. I personally bought it from a local lab supply shop. It won't raise suspicions.
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wal-mart carries a 100% acetone Onyx brand. does anyone know if this works for washing?
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I just looked up prices for Spectro Grade (99.5%) acetone, this is not cheap stuff.
Spectro Grade: 1L, Plastic Bottle $77.96 EA ( 1L minimum).
It would have to be a great deal of laxative I wanted washed out to merit the expense for the chipping I occasionally do, but then better to try staying away from the shitty (ha) product in the first place.
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You will seriously need so little of that stuff, though.